Re: And mine 2cents and a dime/ but I'm far from done.


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Posted by Frankie the Roller Skating Chimp on April 21, 2000 at 22:25:45:

In Reply to: Re: And mine 2cents and a dime/ but I'm far from done. posted by Kerry on April 21, 2000 at 11:41:17:

: Dave,
: Tom may be honest, forthright, and a good friend of yours but Unions are meant to be a show of working power to save jobs and direct industry for the sake of the workers, not the business interest of executives and administrators. You have made plenty of excuses for Tom and for yourself but it seems your current interest are tied in with Tom's. So what you say means very little. God love everyone, but a union means assertiveness, the idea is that as a union it speaks collectively without conceding for the sake of temporary comfort. Snakebite is right, if work is being shipped off to Yowza Animation while there are unemployed artist here, then it's THEN and NOW that you take the stand. especially if as Union President your reason for being is to watch over the interest of your members.

: Oh I see, it's to meet deadlines and for financial reason's (I say sarcastically). You mean again bowing to the needs of the administrators and executives!! Your time and energy should be put into trying to get the independents into the union or gaining their sympathy, to get them to understand that the available amount of work would explode if work was kept at home. Not conceding, but constantly finding weak links in the agendas of the executives and their money only attitudes. The union president should not even have the conflict of interest of being in a position to suffer a loss if he doesn't concede. Let me rephrase that a Union Leader should not have business interest that conflict the unions core purpose (Keeping jobs at home) Tom is dealing with issues too close to his own wallet and caring for his own family to make the kind of difficult decisions that need to be made as union leader. If it ever came to negotiations it would be too easy for the bad guys to pin point Tom's weak spots. All Large successful unions have union leaders that do nothing but watch the interest of its members, more then not, that individual becomes a walking pain in the butt. Striking fear into administrator hearts when he/she calls or walks into a room. Not working with and conceding to administrators. This is why their salaries are paid by the union. Not by large companies who hire them.

: Tom might think to himself, "AHHHHH okay, shipping work off to Yowza, I understand it's financial it will help us meet the deadline, okay, I'll just make sure that doesn't piss off my union brothers by telling them that is how the business is and there isn't anything we can do about it. That the budget is small."

: Of course the freakin budget is small, they know what they can get away with!!! When executives sit down to budget a project they always work toward the smallest numbers, and they will actually calculate what they can and can not get away with. And since you are ready to defend their excuses then they will continue to calculate such successions into their budgets. Their only jobs are to make sure a project is done as cheaply as possible.

: Wake up Mr Brewster, nobody's asking you to dislike Tom but if you can't see that his own motivations are too close to his own well being to make difficult decisions then you are simple being naive.

: You are also full of crap when you say you are too busy to join a picket. You are missing the point of a union...let me spell it out for you U..N..I..O..N. Now let me translate; a number of persons, societies, states, or the like, joined or associated together for some common purpose. Myself, I would have called in sick and gone to the picket. Maybe you were a little afraid of being fired, or maybe you were enjoying you work and having a difficult time feeling any sympathy for your suffering associates. At least snakebite went.

: Kerry
In re. Tom's proposed resignation, what exactly would that get us?





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