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Protect IP - SOPA will kill the internet

Postby skynet » Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:22 pm

Here is yet another disturbing situation approaching us. We might actually be losing the internet as we know it. If this new anti-piracy legislation is passed, SOPA, the internet will be "sliced up" into pieces and most of it will be shut down. Millions of sites will be automatically shut down and completely censored into oblivion just from the mere claim of piracy or copyright infringement. The supporters of the new anti-piracy legislation use the assertion that they are trying to save and create jobs but what will happen is they will be destroying millions of jobs and severely crippling the industry. The tech industry will be squashed and the the modern dark ages we currently live in now will become much darker. I hope the people and the industry can block this or all will be lost. This will lead to the government having complete control over the internet.

Everyone has to sign any legitimate petition they can find to stop this insanity.

or here:

Watch this all the way through.

More on how it wont work anyway.

White House Petition Against E-PARASITE/SOPA


Imagine a country where the government is able to shut down Web sites at the slightest provocation, where elected representatives invoke fears of "overseas pirates" to defend the interests of domestic industries, and where Internet companies like Google must cave in to the demands of government censors or risk being shut down.

No, we are not talking about China, North Korea or Iran — we are talking about the United States, where legislators in both the House and Senate are attempting to push through new anti-piracy legislation by year-end that would benefit Hollywood at the expense of Silicon Valley.

Unlike other, more confusing efforts to regulate the relationship between content providers and other Web sites, opposition to the new Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) legislation has led to a unified front within the tech community. Some of the most powerful players in Silicon Valley — Google, Facebook, Zynga, eBay, Twitter, Yahoo, and LinkedIn — have made their opposition to the bill public, even going so far as to take out full-page advertisements ("We Stand Together to Protect Innovation") explaining their position. Companies like Tumblr and Reddit that benefit from user-generated content have gone one step further, with highly publicized efforts to show users why it is important to speak out against SOPA. (Full disclosure: Washington Post Co. Chairman and chief executive Donald E. Graham is a member of Facebook's board of directors.)

The anti-piracy legislation in the House, which has companion legislation known as "Protect IP" in the Senate, has picked up the support of the Motion Picture Association of America, the Screen Actors Guild, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and even the International Association of Firefighters. The legislation is a ham-handed effort to shut down Internet piracy anywhere on the Web, but it confuses "piracy protection" and "censorship." The bill also showcases a failure on the part of lawmakers to understand how the Internet works. Under SOPA, any site that contains user-generated content, such as Flickr, Etsy or Tumblr, could be found liable for copyright infringement and be forced to shut down until the offending content has been removed.

There is obviously a lot at stake, and it goes far beyond a tally of dollars and cents lost to piracy.

This new legislation, if enacted, would strike at the very core of the way the Internet has been structured. Sharing, openness, and participation are at the core of what the Internet represents. When it comes to a choice between an open Internet and an Internet of walled gardens patrolled by government censors, there is no doubt which is preferable. As Booz & Co. pointed out in a recent study, the SOPA legislation could lead to a decline in Internet innovation.

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Postby Dolphin78 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:45 pm

Give a politician and bureaucrat an inch and they will take a mile of your freedom and do so in such a way that is convenient to themselves and those who lobby them with money, gifts and favors.

I don't like piracy, but I do like due process. Bureaucracies, by their nature, can't be trusted with the Constitution and once entrenched find it very easy to act like a gang of officious thugs.
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Postby Charles » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:05 am

Ironically, the word "SOPA" in Greek means be quiet, or a milder version of "shut up".

Here's more video dealing with the subject. An anti-SOPA press conference from this past November 15.

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Part 4

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Postby SNAKEBITE » Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:39 pm

oops, didn't realize this was already posted...sorry for double post
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Postby skynet » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:19 pm

Shouldn't the MPAA be more concerned with how their box office sales have hit a three year low? It seems they don't care about the really bad movies they keep pumping out and the low sales. Instead they (and the RIAA) want to have control of the internet. What? Is the MPAA trying to get out of the movie making business now? Well, if they actually get this control that they are buying with their big bucked bribes, they wont only be castrating the internet. They'll be castrating themselves as well.

Legacy media bankrolling campaigns of SOPA cosponsors

The creeps never learn...

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Postby skynet » Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:35 pm

I hope people really understand what Protect IP and SOPA will mean for the internet.

There are many sources, you just have to look. This interview has some info.

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Postby SNAKEBITE » Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:31 pm

thanks for following up with this issue, Skynet!
Here we are again. Fighting for our IP rights...I personally think that this is the core issue of everything happening in this world.

To control information.

Whats the first thing a conquering nation does to the conquered??? they destroy their information, their history, their identity.

Information is everything. Ideas are everything. Creations are everything.

Outside of gravity, these are the things that make the world go around...not money.

Remember, we're doomed to repeat history if we don't learn from it...and if a certain group is in control of that history then we're repeat every mistake we made over and over and over...hey, its voting time!!! The irony...ready to repeat yourselves, people??? VOTE FOR THE LESSER EVIL!!!! hahahaha, suckas!!!!

But we don't know our history. Truly we don't. How could we if our nation, the conquerers, destroy the conquered knowledge...History is skewed in someones favor...and it aint ours.

IP is the new industry for our world. Whoever controls IP controls the world. Game over.

Good Luck! Have Courage! Do whats right, even if there is nothing to gain for your lifetime. Think of your kids kids kids...
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Postby Dolphin78 » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:31 pm

The last time this self-serving set got the legislation they wanted, my at the time very expensive DVD recording device ended up setup so that I couldn't copy my own camera footage recorded to my own DVD's. Had to take the footage into my computer directly from the camera, author and not try to use my DVD recorder as a real-time encoder. Encoders at the time were rather slow.

I guess I could have found a ripper, but that's kind of ridiculous to have to do for my own footage and made extra steps. I haven't forgiven them for that.
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Postby skynet » Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:39 pm

Well, the bill goes to the House tomorrow so we shall soon find out if we are completely doomed.

Check here if you want to do something about it.
Kill SOPA, save America's Internet and American jobs: ACT NOW, bill goes to the House TOMORROW

Yeah, these guys obviously have no idea what they are doing to even come up with legislation this bad. Either there is a mind numbing brain dead process of thought growing in this country or the powers that be just want all the control...and the situation keeps getting worse as we stumble along into insanity. How many bad decisions do we have to deal with? Sometimes I have to stop and wonder why we are even having these kinds of discussions. I'd rather be talking about the things that will push us into a future that is positively charged and far more advanced, and I don't want to talk or think about these things that are pulling us down into stagnation and degeneration. Technology has already been hindered so many times, but if they keep cutting it off like this, we'll never get anywhere. The whole world is so messed up right now, it's hard for a lot of people to know what to think about anything.
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Re: Protect IP - SOPA will kill the internet

Postby SNAKEBITE » Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:28 pm

Yeah man, seems like all these people who know better then us are just keeping us in the dark ages and keeping us from true progress with all their talk, red tape and laws that keep us from owning...well, ourselves.

We;re born into a system that they made...a system where our identities can be stolen????

Statutes are made because they don't have any true solutions....because true solutions aren't profitable and in a social construct built around money, if it aint profitable then its not worth it....???
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Postby skynet » Fri Dec 23, 2011 10:54 am

Looks like Godaddy is in full support of SOPA and people are getting very upset about it. Thousands and thousands of domains are in the process of being transferred away from godaddy and hosting accounts are being transferred to other web hosts (their registration is good but no one should be hosting with godaddy anyway because they suck at hosting so that's a no brainer). If godaddy continues to support SOPA lots more people and companies are threatening to take their business elsewhere. I'm not sure what godaddy is thinking, maybe they are looking to get out of domain registration and hosting (just like how netflix seems to be wanting to get out of their business by self destructing)? Godaddy has been going downhill anyway which is depressing because their registration service in general has been excellent, except for their confusing maze of ads and garbage you have to navigate through on their ridiculous web site.

Looks like domain transfers are in a lot of people futures soon if something doesn't change.

Go Daddy hit with SOPA backlash

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Postby skynet » Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:53 pm

That was quick. Looks like Godadday has already backed out of supporting SOPA today because of the message they were getting from all their customers. They were facing a huge boycott. It doesn't change how bad Godaddy looks right now, but what does this show everyone about SOPA?

It's a very bad thing that no one in their right mind wants.

GoDaddy Changes Its Mind on Supporting SOPA

All the Companies Supporting SOPA
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Postby Charles » Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:29 pm

Have you seen the list of companies and organizations supporting this legislation?

Check it out. This is from the link provided by Skynet in the post above...


60 Plus Association:


Alliance for Safe Online Pharmacies (ASOP): 703-539-ASOP (2767)

American Federation of Musicians (AFM):

American Federation of Television and Radio Artists (AFTRA): (212) 532-0800

American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (ASCAP):

Americans for Tax Reform:

Artists and Allied Crafts of the United States:

Association of American Publishers (AAP):

Association of State Criminal Investigative Agencies:

Association of Talent Agents (ATA):

Baker & Hostetler LLP: or

Beachbody, LLC:


BMG Chrysalis:

Capitol Records Nashville: and


Cengage Learning: (800) 354-9706

Christian Music Trade Association: 615-242-0303

Church Music Publishers' Association: (615) 791-0273

Coalition Against Online Video Piracy (CAOVP): (212) 485-3452


Concerned Women for America (CWA): (202) 488-7000

Congressional Fire Services Institute:


Copyright Alliance:

Coty, Inc.:

Council of Better Business Bureaus (CBBB): (703) 276-0100

Council of State Governments:

Country Music Association:

Country Music Television:

Covington & Burling LLP:

Cowan, DeBaets, Abrahams & Sheppard LLP:

Cowan, Liebowitz & Latman, P.C.:

Directors Guild of America (DGA): (310) 289-2000 or (800) 421-4173

Disney Publishing Worldwide, Inc.: (212) 633-4400


EMI Christian Music Group: (615) 371-4300

EMI Music Publishing: (212) 492-1200

ESPN: ... d%20states

Estée Lauder Companies: (212) 572-4200

Fraternal Order of Police (FOP):

Go Daddy: (480) 505-8800

Gospel Music Association:

Graphic Artists Guild:

Hachette Book Group: ... ct-us.aspx

HarperCollins Publishers Worldwide: or (212) 207-7000


Independent Film & Television Alliance (IFTA):

International Alliance of Theatrical and Stage Employees: See Artists and Allied Crafts

International AntiCounterfeiting Coalition (IACC):

International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW): (202) 833-7000

International Brotherhood of Teamsters:

International Trademark Association (INTA): or

International Union of Police Associations:

Irell & Manella LLP:

Jenner & Block LLP: (312) 222-9350

Kelley Drye & Warren LLP:

Kendall Brill & Klieger LLP: (310) 556-2700

Kinsella Weitzman Iser Kump & Aldisert LLP:

L'Oreal: (212) 818-1500

Lathrop & Gage LLP:

Loeb & Loeb LLP:

Lost Highway Records: (615) 524-7500

Macmillan: (646) 307-5151

Major County Sheriffs:

Major League Baseball:

Majority City Chiefs:

Marvel Entertainment: (212) 576-4000

MasterCard Worldwide: (800) 622-7747

MCA Records:

McGraw-Hill Education:

Minor League Baseball (MiLB): or

Minority Media & Telecom Council (MMTC):

Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp LLP:

Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA):

Moving Picture Technicians: See Artists and Allied Crafts

MPA – The Association of Magazine Media:

National Association of Manufacturers (NAM):

National Association of Prosecutor Coordinators: (518) 432-1100

National Association of State Chief Information Officers:

National Cable & Telecommunications Association (NCTA):

National Center for Victims of Crime:

National Crime Justice Association:

National District Attorneys Association: (703) 549-9222

National Domestic Preparedness Coalition:

National Football League:

National Governors Association, Economic Development and Commerce Committee:

National League of Cities:

National Narcotics Offers' Associations' Coalition: or

National Sheriffs' Association (NSA):

National Songwriters Association:

National Troopers Coalition:

News Corporation:

Patterson Belknap Webb & Tyler LLP:

Pearson Education:

Penguin Group (USA), Inc.:

Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America:

Phillips Nizer, LLP:

Pfizer, Inc.:

Proskauer Rose LLP:

Provident Music Group: (615) 261-6500

Random House:

Raulet Property Partners:

Revlon: ... ntact.aspx

Robins, Kaplan, Miller & Ciresi LLP:

Scholastic, Inc.:

Screen Actors Guild (SAG):

Shearman & Sterling LLP:

Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP: (212) 455-2000

Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP:

Sony/ATV Music Publishing:

Sony Music Entertainment: or http://

Sony Music Nashville:

State International Development Organization (SIDO):

The National Association of Theatre Owners (NATO):

The Perseus Books Groups: (800) 343-4499

The United States Conference of Mayors:

Tiffany & Co.: ... actUs.aspx

Time Warner:

Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC):

UMG Publishing Group Nashville: (615) 340-5400

United States Chamber of Commerce:

United States Tennis Association:
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Universal Music:

Universal Music Publishing Group:


Visa, Inc.:

W.W. Norton & Company: (212) 354-5500

Warner Music Group:

Warner Music Nashville:

White & Case LLP:

Wolters Kluewer Health:

Word Entertainment:

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Postby Charles » Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:34 pm

Notice that the International Alliance of Theatrical and Stage Employees is on that list.

That's the mothership union of The Animation Guild.

Oh Boy! I really trust this legislation now!

This is what Hostgator, a major web hosting service, has to say about SOPA...


SOPA Must Die!

Written by Patrick Pelanne
Thursday, December 22nd, 2011

Imagine if you were able to genetically combine Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, Darth Vader and Barbara Streisand into one horrifically terrifying being. Now imagine that being is actually a piece of proposed legislature — the terrifying creation in your midst would then be the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) which is currently being considered by the House.

SOPA, aka H.R. 3261 is a bill right now in the House sponsored by R-TX Lamar Smith. It’s not just any bill though, it’s a bill that would allow the USDOJ, RIAA, MPAA and anyone else who lobbies for the entertainment industry to effectively censor the internet to suit their needs.

James Allworth recently wrote “Is this really what we want to do to the internet? Shut it down every time it doesn’t fit someone’s business model?” and I couldn’t agree more. Censorship is a slippery slope. Not only that but it also creates an absurd amount of bureaucratic busy work. Here at HostGator we already spend a HUGE amount of time answering DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act) requests. If we allow our representatives to begin deciding what is and what isn’t ok for you to view on the internet then where will it end?

The bill itself is absurdly broad, creates a ton of liability for small to mid size e-commerce based businesses and will serve to stifle the tech industry in order to cater to lobbying groups paid by companies who refuse to adapt to a world in which free information is king (and almost as unstoppable as a force of nature).

A couple months back Godaddy CEO Bob Parsons decided to head to africa to help out the good african citizens by murdering elephants (pesky elephants!). They received so much hate in response to that you’d think they would take a more neutral tact in their views going forward. NOPE! Today Godaddy came out in support of SOPA (which is mind blowing to us as we’re both in the same sector) and they’re receiving a good amount of (well deserved) lashback: ... 1_domains/

We here at HostGator support a free internet. An Internet in which free information and unhindered distribution of said information is an unalienable human right. Do the same, contact your representative and tell them to vote NO on SOPA.


Link to Hostgator commentary.

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Postby skynet » Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:53 pm

This was a good thing to do but i'm not so sure it will help to make the fools in congress understand the situation any better. You might as well teach a rock how to go deep sea fishing.

Well, hope it helps to stop the SOPA insanity.

83 of the Internet's most prominent inventors, founders, and engineers have penned an open letter to Congress in opposition to the Stop Online Piracy Act, which is slated for markup in the House today. The signatories warn that the bill will compromise fundamental Internet infrastructure and undermine the security of the net.

Censorship of Internet infrastructure will inevitably cause network errors and security problems. This is true in China, Iran and other countries that censor the network today; it will be just as true of American censorship. It is also true regardless of whether censorship is implemented via the DNS, proxies, firewalls, or any other method. Types of network errors and insecurity that we wrestle with today will become more widespread, and will affect sites other than those blacklisted by the American government.

The current bills -- SOPA explicitly and PIPA implicitly -- also threaten engineers who build Internet systems or offer services that are not readily and automatically compliant with censorship actions by the U.S. government. When we designed the Internet the first time, our priorities were reliability, robustness and minimizing central points of failure or control. We are alarmed that Congress is so close to mandating censorship-compliance as a design requirement for new Internet innovations. This can only damage the security of the network, and give authoritarian governments more power over what their citizens can read and publish.

Internet Engineers to Congress: SOPA censorship will harm Internet security
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Postby skynet » Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:44 am

It's too bad there's no real education on internet technology (or anything else) in congress. As is the case every time, these guys are flappin their mouths off about how to regulate something they know absolutely nothing about. It further shows the incompetence of these people to lead. Any person with an average IQ should be able to understand it enough to at least have some common sense, or you'd think.

The scary thing is that this brings up an issue that bleeds into everything these foolish "leaders" are doing. How did these incompetent people get into these government positions making huge rising salaries? These people are making lots of money off of our backs and all they do is make asinine decisions and policies. It baffles the mind. Is it a prerequisite to be completely uneducated on most subjects before entering politics? Is it because most highly intelligent people avoid politics because it means you have to become brainless and lose your mind?

Well, you can read more and check out links below to find out the rest for yourself.

...the most notable feature of the debate turned out to be the sheer ignorance of the elected officials discussing it. One after the other, members of the U.S. House of Representatives professed — nay, bragged about — approaching this weighty legislation from the vantage point of someone who is not “a nerd” or a “tech expert.”

Nerds and tech experts, and plenty of savvy Internet users who don’t consider themselves either of these things, cringed in unison. They retaliated with an Internet meme, of course, an open digital letter informing Congress that it is finally “No Longer OK To Not Know How The Internet Works.”

The episode — and the backlash it engendered — raised serious questions about how much personal expertise is required of elected officials with the power to regulate technical niches, from stem cell research to Internet commerce. But, perhaps more importantly, it raised this question: Where do members of Congress get their expertise? They don’t all arrive in town as born experts on medical cost curves and equity derivatives.

SOPA Debate Highlights Congress’s Ignorance

The nightmarish SOPA hearings
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Postby skynet » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:24 am

As everything around us escalates further into the realms pointless complication, we almost have to start asking questions like: What the hell are we all doing here and what does it mean to be alive? Are humans collectively becoming deranged or what? As we lurch into 2012 we are bombarded with so much unnecessary bureaucracy, laws and other insanities that seem to only damage and shackle individuals. Is that the purpose or the byproduct? Is it still possible to live and let live or are those days gone? As a so called "intelligent species" shouldn't we be understanding more about life and what it means to be alive instead of getting more confused, restricted and troubled about everything? Maybe we're not as smart as we'd like to think we are, but I'd like to think we have the ability to rise above the fog of madness that's drifting across the planet, or at least some of us. We need to start avoiding chaos, instead of creating it.

Anyway, here's an interesting take on SOPA...

SOPA, Freedom, And The Invisible War
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Postby Charles » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:37 pm

Thank you for keeping us updated as to what's happening with this bill Skynet.

A topic as important as this is being overlooked by the online animation community. None of the sites involved with the business of animation, as far as I can tell, have had anything dealing with this.

And to top it off as I mentioned before, IATSE, which is the mothership of our own industry's union, actually supports this legislation. Maybe that's the reason for the widespread silence.

At least AN is keeping this crucial topic in the public eye of the animation community.

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Postby Charles » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:56 pm

Most of the guilds and unions in the entertainment industry are backing this legislation, which also has the support of the entertainment conglomerates. The destruction of the Internet as we know it gives these generally opposing camps something in common making them allies on the issue.

This is just plain wrong, especially on the part of the guilds and unions. This isn't going to stop piracy, and if piracy is a problem that's adversely affecting the economy of entertainment, I don't see the studios or the unions struggling to make ends meet because of this. Everyone is doing very well despite the allegations.

The bad economy is doing more to hurt the entertainment box office than anything else. And if they pass SOPA, will we see more jobs being created in this sector of American industry?

Check out this video, it's very informative.


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Postby skynet » Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:13 am

Google, Yahoo, Facebook and Amazon are considering a day of blackout to protest the "Stop Online Privacy Act" or SOPA. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian discuss SOPA and what kind of impact this protest would have.

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