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Hmmmm
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I just received an email advising people against "Father of the Pride" and sending them to this website to file a complaint with the fcc. https://www.parentstv.org/ptc/action/fotp/mainH.asp That show could soon be in trouble if this takes off.
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SquarejawHero
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quote:
Federal Communications Commission
445 12th St, S.W.
Complaints and Political Programming Branch
Enforcement Division, Mass Media Bureau
Washington, DC 20554

This is a formal COMPLAINT of indecency on broadcast television. My complaint concerns the PROGRAM ON:

NETWORK: NBC

PROGRAM TITLE: 'Father of the Pride' which was broadcast on:

BROADCAST DATE: August 31, 2004

BROADCAST TIME: 9:00PM Eastern /Pacific, 8:00PM Central/Mountain

COMPLAINANT believes that this synopsis of 'Father of the Pride' content is in context and fully representative of the show's overall tone and quality, which the FCC must declare is indecent.

The broadcast depicts or describes in terms patently offensive as measured by contemporary community standards for the broadcast medium, sexual or excretory activities or organs.

For the reason above stated, the FCC should exercise its responsibility to enforce the existing law against indecency on broadcast TV between the hours of 6 a.m. and 10 p.m. (Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 1464) by levying severe sanctions against the broadcasters of this program.

Documentation of the indecent material on which my COMPLAINT is based is provided below. A videotape of this entire broadcast of 'Father of the Pride' is available from the Parents Television Council.

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EXCERPTS from the August 31, 2004 premiere episode of "Father of the Pride"
- An animated orangutan calls his wife "a bitch"
- A panda refers to her "slutty sister"
- An animal trainer is accosted by a sexually aroused chimpanzee
- Larry Lion bellows out at one point, "Big Daddy's home and he's ready for lovin' ... It may be 9 o'clock in New York, but right here it's mountin' time."
- A male house cat lies on the floor between Larry's legs. There is a slurping sound. "What?" asks the cat. "Your wife ain't doing it. I'm all you got, sunshine."

Documentation --------------

PLEASE KEEP ME INFORMED OF THE PROGRESS AND RESULTS OF YOUR INVESTIGATION INTO THIS MATTER.

Sincerely,

I dunno, next they'll be saying that a rock formation on the cover of a Little Mermaid DVD looks like a penis... meh!

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Steve G
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I think they have dirty minds. I found all those things innocent and have no idea why they suggested that this was intended for adult audiences.

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MICROPHONE JONEZ
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Where can I sign a petition complaining about the show's lack of comedy?
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Who do I go to complain that the FCC is nothing but a bunch of whiney cry babies?

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MattM
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Same ol' thing, I am all for morals in our society but once again its somone who wants the government to control everything. Just change the channel or turn the TV off, simple solution yet people cant seem to do it.

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Steve G
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Not to turn this into a 'side topic' but I suspect these same people are against bigger government , but think it's fine and dandy to have gov't tell you what you can and can't do in the bedroom and what you can and can't watch on TV.

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Animagus
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I was just thinking of a news item from back in 2000. That was the year that those little motorized scooters were all the rage with kids, and people were complaining, trying to get legislation to ban them. I remember thinking, "why don't these people just wait for the fad to pass, that'll get those things off the streets quicker than their legal actions".

No offense to anyone who might be working on the show, but I just don't see it lasting. I haven't talked to anyone whose seen it. Why are these people up in arms about something that probably won't be around much longer? It's intersting, because Dreamworks is also marketing "Sharktale" to kids, complete with a coloring activity thing in the newspapers, but someone on this board got a chance to see a preview of the film, and stated here that he felt it was definitely not for kids. That could be another hot potatoe (potato?) for DW.
Now, when Pixar starts branching out into television, you know it's going to be awesome! Whatever they do will have a huge audience.

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MattM
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I agree with Steve G. It seems that controversy only makes people want to know what the fuss is all about, if you dont like it just mind your own business and thats it, it will pass. Someone needs to tell people thats its only animation. Also I am quite sure the people complaining about the language in the show use those smae words around their children on a daily basis. Parents need to remember that you as a parent raise your child and you set the example not a tv show.

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Dickie Crickitts
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quote:
An animal trainer is accosted by a sexually aroused chimpanzee
- Larry Lion bellows out at one point, "Big Daddy's home and he's ready for lovin' ... It may be 9 o'clock in New York, but right here it's mountin' time."
- A male house cat lies on the floor between Larry's legs. There is a slurping sound. "What?" asks the cat. "Your wife ain't doing it. I'm all you got, sunshine."

I dunno- sounds like pure comedy to me.
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A copy of your COMPLAINT will also be forwarded in your name to TOYOTA, as sole sponsor of the premiere episode of "Father of the Pride," with the following message:


Umm.. why do we forward it to Toyota? [Confused]


I thought the show was kind of boring.. its like the show is trying too hard to be funny. Then again I found that true with a lot of Dreamworks animated "entertainment".. [snore]

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Hmmmm
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Here's a piece of the guys letter that is getting emailed around:


Possibly the most disgusting thing about Father of the Pride is that the producers had to know full-well that children would be attracted to an animated program, especially one with cute, cuddly-looking animal characters. And yet the animated lions deliver a powerful sucker-punch to families -- a barrage of sexual innuendo and profanity.

You see, when "Father of the Pride" actually premiered, it turned out to be "one big off-color joke" and "downright smutty" (review in the Deseret Morning News of Utah).

I won't offend you by quoting this show's filthy content. If you want the documentation, it's there on the PTC's website.

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Charles
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Hmmmm indeed, Hmmmm. This is a real hmmmm dinger of a story.

By the way, who are you?

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Charles
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What's amazing about this thread is that not one ANer so far has come to the defense of the person who initiated this complaint with the FCC.

He or she has more in common with AnimationNation than the comments that have been made against them. At least they got up off of their unmentionables and took action on an issue they felt strongly about. That's no reason to put them down.

More and more of this monkey programming. A dysfunctional family sitcom with sexual innuendos. Wake me when it's over please. At least the show's got some decent eye candy.

There's an enormous audience out there just waiting for something decent to watch, and all they seem to get is the same old offensive trash. It's as if Hollywood is actually trying to produce a loser.

People don't want it, ladies and gents. They don't want it. They're tired of the pandering of innapropriate material to their families and all we get on this board is people berating them for the way they feel and the actions they take in frustration.

Remember back in the summer of 2000, when there were these Congressional hearings into children's programming and the major broadcasters admitted in public that they actively pander sexually explicite and innapropriate material to young kids? Nothing was done about it because it was an election year ploy, but the feelings of the public in Peoria are still just as sour, angry and disappointed.

Yesterday, I had a visitor from Ohio. The man has 3 kids in their teens and he grilled me about the state of television programming and how disappointed he was that there was so little that his family could watch together.

Father of the Pride may likely sink. And if it does, that's a shame. Maybe someday more people in this business will catch on and be a little more sensitive to this vast audience of viewers who are begging for something different.

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PHIL
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In the complaint box, I deleted the message and forwarded my own response along the lines of- the series was always intended for an adult audience... by making a public outcry they are just enticing children to watch it...if they have any control as parents by all means stop their own children from watching but don't stop anyone else etc..

I wonder if it reaches the fcc before anyone realises!

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Hmmmm
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I must admit that I can see the guys point. Dreamworks will say they don't want the kids to see it, but they probably do want them to. DW could have probably done the same show, and been more clever with the writing and not have to stoop to using gutter humor. Look at the Mr. Bean animated series for an example, because it appeals to both adults and kids, and is really funny!
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Dickie Crickitts
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Well you can blame Shrek and Shrek 2 for all that. People love it, they wanted more, so tv had to make something edgy and adult. How can you blame tv for wanting to make a little cash? The audience wants that stuff, but when they see it on tv in front of them, they complain. I think some serious mass therapy is in order.
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Network TV during and surrounding "family time" is routinely "censored"... so this isn't anything new, nor is it a surprise.

What is significant was that I heard some sort of poll results this morning on the radio about some 60%-80% of people agree with a variety of censorship issues... including making cable channels abide by the same rules!!!

And you're right - most of these people probably ARE against big government.

One of the standard graphics for liberal vs conservative is:
liberal - government involved in the pocketbook, government out of the bedroom
conservative - government out of the pocketbook,
government in the bedroom
libertarians tend to want government out of both.

I fall somewhere between conservative and libertarian.

I don't think the father of the pride needs to be censored, but it might have been wise to either put it on cable, or on after 10pm. Adding some jokes would have been good as well.

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Does anyone really want goverment in the bedroom? Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld staring me down in nightvision goggles... that might be a little freaky.

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I may like a bit of government in my bedroom every now and then... And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It is just a healthy form of sexual expression. Nothing like a little Chennney when things get stale.

Oooo now I have to go wash my eyes out with soap. Jeez talk out giving myself the wrong mental images.

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If the creators of "Father of the Pride" were looking to appeal to the same audience that went to Shrek in droves, then they missed the mark by a long shot. Nice enough looking stuff, but why go so overtly sexual with much of the humor? Will that really appeal to a large number of people?
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ya know as much as I like sex, Im really tired of "adult" entertainment being the same ol same ol. peepee poopoo and sex...wow, big deal. I gave Father of the Pride a chance. Sigried and Roy crack me up for some reason but besides that, yaaawwn. without the sex jokes it would have nothing.

still waiting for adult entertainment...

and Aqua Teen Hunger Force...saw it for the first time the other day....oh my fukin god, wait a piece of crap. someone got paid for that sht...sorry, I just heard such great things about is and was really disapointed. sorry if I offend anyone working on it...but thats poopoo peepee

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I dunno Charles - I don't think censorship has much to do with these boards, and that's what a complaint to the FCC is asking for - censorship. In fact, censorship has historically been one of the major enemies of creators and ideas. I do agree that everyone has their right to their opinion, though, just as everyone has a right to switch the channel or turn off the TV completely.

I think that the biggest question of the crassness of Father of the Pride is why? Why go down that road? Why alienate people with cheap laughs, rather than make something everyone can enjoy? Who makes those decisions? A couple of those lines on the pilot were completely out of control - especially the last kitty line above. They were probably thrown in to get people talking, and it worked - here we are.

I think the current state of all areas of pop culture is completely dismal. Hopefully a shift will happen soon.

But, didn't people get angry at the Simpsons way back when?

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The audience can cesor FotP by not watching it. We don't need the gov't to tell us what we can and can't watch.

The FCC was created when there were few choices (even then it was ridiculous) now there are hudreds. If you don't like a show switch the channel (or turn off the TV) and if enough people don't like a show it'll be canceled.

I doubt NBC will continue to pay for FotP if no one's watching.

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And I know you have all grown tired of what you call my "whining," but...what did you expect?

If this thing had been better talked about - like if DreamWorks had really promoted it, shown it off, talked about it - any of this negative stuff would have gotten out early. And I'm not even talking about promoting at conventions, but trying to entice the TV audience to watch the thing.

I said that DreamWorks had something about this show they were hiding...which I presumed was a lack of quality. But I didn't think they would show desperation this quickly and go for excessively sexual jokes to make up for a faulty concept.

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How badly did it do in the ratings?
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If it does well in the ratings then that means the people want it. If they don't, it goes away. If people turn the channel they don't have to watch it.

And please, no Cheney in MY bedroom. Ick.

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I'm probably in the minority here, but I haven't watched this show at all for two reasons:

1) I'm not a big fan of what execs feel is "adult" humor. A gag about a penis or something that's well written and funny is one thing, but it seemed from the promos that they are trying way too hard.

2) They outsourced all the animation to some company overseas when there are a ton of places here in the states that could have knocked it out of the park.

I can't support a show that isn't funny and doesn't support the US animation industry. (I don't watch a lot of animated shows [Smile] )

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Careful about using that website to change the wording of the petition. No matter what you write, those sites DEFAULT ack to what they want it to say.

So inadvertantly you could be supporting THEIR cause.


Better off sending a note directly to the source (snail or e-mal)

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I don't think the show should be censored, lame as the show is- but there's not doubt that they're targeting to young kids. I just picked up the Sept. 2004 Disney Adventures Magazine- big promo/interview with one of the young voice acors inside. (Facing a 'Princess Costumes' ad for the Disney Store, no less...)

...and off topic, I love Aqua Teen Hunger Force.

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What is the timeslot for this show in the states? Here in Ontario Canada this show is on during prime time, which surprised me considering the content sometimes. I find the show amusing, but think it would be better served after 9:00 or so(isn't this one of the problems Family Guy got into during it's inital run? That some of the stuff just was suitable for "family viewing")
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I'm not really for censoring it, but sexual content is the reason I'm not watching after my first tune in. For my part, I think it's more because heavy sexual content with animal characters makes me uncomfortable.

FotP will censor itself by turning off viewers. Who thinks showing meerkats (or whatever they were) having a heavy make-out session is something the television audience wants to see? Or is that a rhetorical question.

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