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Caracal
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There was an interesting news clip on CNN this morning about moderate Iranians which constitute the vast majority of the country. They do not burn American and Israele flags or wave flags in support for Hez. Like most of the worlds population they just want to make a living and have families.

They're fortunate enough to be living in a country where their houses and families are not being bombed. Given the conditions for peace people will live in peace. Thats a basic hardwired survival trait.

It's a good reminder that the actions taken by leaders of nations, sects and militias often represent the beliefs of only a small percent of the actual people caught up it events.

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Charles
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An interesting news item is out concering the conflict in Lebanon. It's a video which features footage of Israeli and Lebanese soldiers sitting together and enjoying a cup of tea.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/17/mideast.main/index.html

The video was shot by Israelis on August 10, when Israeli troops took control of the southern Lebanese town of Marjeyoun. It aired on Israeli TV on Wednesday. It also aired on the Hezzie's TV networks. The Hezzies are upset about this because the Lebanese and Israelis are getting along just fine in a town that gave up without a fight, contrary to reports from Hezbollah which claimed that fighting raged in that town and a couple of Israeli tanks were destroyed.

Here's an excerpt from the article.

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According to Nasr, the tape reflects the Lebanese army's hands-off policy in the fighting between Israel and the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah.

Lebanon didn't want to turn the conflict into a war between it and Israel, she said.

The actions, as depicted in a video where parts may have been deleted and edited, could suggest the Lebanese army is weak and unable to take southern Lebanon back from Hezbollah without help.

There are conflicting reports of what happened at Marjeyoun, a largely Christian town.

Lebanese intelligence said the Israeli troops met no resistance when they entered the town. Arab-language network Al-Jazeera has quoted Hezbollah as saying "violent battles" took place with their militants, and Arab news networks Al-Manar and Al-Arabiya reported at least two Israeli tanks were destroyed in the fighting.

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Tobias A. Wolf
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One day a Palestinian will be the Prime Minister of Israel, and a Jew will be the President in Lebanon. Maybe not tomorrow, or even in my lifetime, but eventually, it's going to happen.

Who would have thought in 1987 that Nelson Mandela would be the Prime Minister of South Africa 10 years later? Things always change, and quickly sometimes. It's how history goes.

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Charles
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The Hezzies accuse the Lebanese soldiers of treason for having tea with the Israelis and since Lebanon does not formally recognize Israel, the Lebanese soldiers may have gotten into trouble. For sharing tea with the Israelis.

There's a long long way to go before a utopia emerges in the Middle East, but at least some of the parties in the area have the sensibility to sit down and enjoy pleasant company instead of automatically resorting to killing each other.

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Here's another stumbling block to peace, based entirely upon hatred and irrationality.

An acquaintance with strong ties to Israel related a story about someone they knew over there who sponsored the education of a Palestinian. They had to keep it quite, otherwise, the Palestinian would be murdered by other Palestinians simply for maintaining a friendship with an Israeli.

Once the education was over, the Palestinian never spoke again to his sponsor.

If a Palestinian from Gaza develops a friendship with an Israeli, it's death. They'll be labeled a colaborator and murdered by their own.

At least there's tea with the Lebanese.

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Greg B
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Why in the hell anyone would expect peace in that region is beyond me. It's statistically and historically impossible to have peace there.

The populations are delusional and psychotic. You can't have peace there.

Sheesh.

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Greg, relax a little. Have a cup of tea.

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Tobias A. Wolf
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I hope no one thinks that I believe a Palestinian Prime Minister of Israel would bring utopia to the Middle East. Nothing brings utopia to anywhere, but a dialogue of commonality is always a good place to start. Utopia isn't a pipe dream in it's loosest terms. It means you can have a life.

It means being able to go through your day, and potentially your life, without having to answer for "crimes" against humanity based on your race, religion, or creed. The average life of an American has achieved that by and large, and it's not utopia.

It's common sense. Founded upon the principles of reason inherent in the age that led to the Constitution. It's why our families moved here. Let's not lose that in the propaganda of the day. Don't betray them. It's easy to forget it wasn't always this way, anywhere, and even here. It always has to be fought for. So speak it.

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OFFBEAT
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Do you want to know what peace is??

It's those women in bikinis that hold those cards up between rounds in a boxing match.

It's the pause between war where each side licks their wounds.

unfortunately.

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Fooksie
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A friend once told me, .." The problem with common sense is that it's not too common. "

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Caracal
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Trust in Allah but don't forget to tie up your camel.
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Please step to the side and empty your pockets...

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Greg B
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Okay Charles, I'll do the 'Disney' version of the fall of mankind.

Let's see, we can turn the President, his Cabinet, the Joint Chiefs of Staff into funny CG animals who dance and sing. We can make the terrorists rats and have them sing and dance too.

We'll remove any black people from the equation and we'll make sure there's no blood.

Oh, and we'll make sure we pepper it all with celebrity voices. Since this is an animated project the writers won't get royalties I figure.

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Greg B
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Now we've got 'involuntary' going on in the Marines' service.

Smells like 'teen draft' to me.

Can someone say QUAGMIRE?

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I tought this would make a nice postscript for the topic.

Now that much of Lebanon is in ruins and with political sentiment in that country turning against the Hezzies, their fearless leader says he's sorry. What a swell guy.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5291420.stm

Nasrallah sorry for scale of war

Nasrallah ordered the capture of the soldiers on 12 July.

Hezbollah chief Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah has said he would not have ordered the capture of two Israeli soldiers if he had known it would lead to such a war.

"Had we known that the kidnapping of the soldiers would have led to this, we would definitely not have done it," he said in an interview on Lebanese TV.

He added that neither side was "heading towards a second round" of fighting.

More than 1,000 Lebanese died in the 34-day conflict which left much of southern Lebanon in ruins.

The Israeli offensive began after two Israeli soldiers were seized, and eight killed, during a cross border raid by Hezbollah militants on 12 July.

"We did not think that there was a 1% chance that the kidnapping would lead to a war of this scale and magnitude," Sheikh Nasrallah said.

"Now you ask me if this was 11 July and there was a 1% chance that the kidnapping would lead to a war like the one that has taken place, would you go ahead with the kidnapping?

"I would say no, definitely not, for humanitarian, moral, social, security, military and political reasons.

Many thousands have been left homeless by the offensive "Neither I, Hezbollah, prisoners in Israeli jails and nor the families of the prisoners would accept it."

Sheikh Nasrallah was speaking on the eve of a visit to Beirut by United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan to discuss the expanded UN peacekeeping force to be deployed in southern Lebanon.

A force of 15,000 soldiers, 7,000 of them from European Union states, will be deployed to maintain the fragile ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah.

The UN hopes to have some of the troops on the ground within a week, although the foreign minister of Finland - which currently holds the EU presidency - has said it will be two to three months before the whole force is deployed.

The force will be led by France until February, at which time Italy will take command.

Speaking in Brussels on Friday, Mr Annan said the plan would only work if the enlarged UN force, called Unifil 2, was "strong, credible and robust".

Mr Annan said the force offered the possibility of a "durable ceasefire and long-term solution" to the Middle East crisis.

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Greg B
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Ja,

I was about to post that story Charles when it broke.

That's what I meant by posting very early in this thread as to how you settle a problem with a group like the Hezzies.

If they stomp on your foot, you break both their legs.

That's the ONLY way to handle an aggressive force against you. Then as they're laying there all FUBAR you lay down your terms or you start breaking things from the legs up til finally you're eyes, ears, and throat high. That way they'll then SEE you meant business, LISTEN to you next time, and SWALLOW their stupidity and pride.

Nothin' like a good asskicking to get the problem solved.

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