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Oh yeah, I forgot that one! Also if the Administration screws up then blame the liberals. [funny]
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Imminent threat to who?

These were not a threat to the US. A threat to us is why we were told we needed to invade RIGHT now. Not to mention that these were already found and secured.
These are NOW a threat to our soldiers over there. But they are still not a threat to us over here.

More 'switch and bait', CC?

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they weren't a threat? Because an airplane can explode using a pound of this stuff, and the UN inspectors had stamped 100,000s of tons of it. Yeah, I'm sure Saddam couldn't and wouldn't slip a pound to a terrorist. No danger.

liberals are not at fault. They're hypocrites. They're monday morning courterbacks. They're using 20/20 hindsite. They're focusing only on the negatives. They refuse to admit any threat of Saddams. They refuse to admit any success of Bush's. They see every inch of less-than-perfection, and every "unknown" as being a Bush blunder.

Anyone wanna wager a guess at how they'd be spinning this scenerio under a democrat president? I'm sure they wouldn't be calling it incomptitence. I'm sure they're be reason why the blame doesn't slide all the way up the chain to Clinton or Kerry's desk. I'm sure the 400,000 tons to 380 ton ratio would suddenly seem compelling to them. Under Clinton there would be excuses backing his efforts and defending his competence... under Kerry, they will do nothing but point back and Bush and ignore any poor decision or error Kerry himself makes. "Bush got us into it" will be Kerry's four year cry no matter the issue.

steveG, the UN stamped it and counted it... but it was far from secure. It was a danger. And it was in violation of UN resolutions and peace treaties that he had this shiznit.

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Whoa...watch the pretty sparks as CC spins in circles..ahhhhhhhh...pretty..... [unimpressed]

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kerry's the one running with this incomplete, speculative article and playing it like it is factually placing blame with bush. or am i to think you're open minded and this "new information" objectively just one you over?

i guess you have to latch onto this, though. I mean, your side was predicting 10,000 body bags, mass starvation, bridge bombings, kurd/turkey wars, missles flying into Israel, and a bunch of other disasters that Bush has successfully prevented... so, you have to run with whatever imperfections crop up.

keep talking. all this will due is successfully outline the real threat of saddam that you were claiming doesn't exist - and on matters of security, last minute voters swing incumbant rather than unknown. and all kerry is is a nagging question mark.

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ahhhh...pretty....so pretty..... [freak] [funny]

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Hmmm.. this story, the Abu Musab al-Zarqawi story from a few weeks back... Somebody grab a bucket, I think the Pentagon is leaking.
BushCo antagonized the military brass by installing ideologues in the Pentagon, and I think they're slapping back. This should be a colorful week.

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Topic ping-pong strikes again...
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What was so 'unknown' about the security that was going to be needed for iraq after the invasion, CC? So they were informed about what was needed for the invasion and they promptly ignored and got rid of the man that supplied them with such crucial information.

The Geneva Convention laws, which were ignored, were established to prevent damaging and inflamitory events like Abu Ghraib. So the Geneva Convention was 'unknown'?

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I've been waiting for that Topic Ping-Pong image to pop up here sooner or later. [Razz]
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Oh look! The discovery of another Administration strategic military blunder...quick, this time we can blame the Iraquis! [freak]
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Liberals, irrational??? Please, Coffee, compose yourself.

I skimmed much of this thread, so maybe someone already mentioned this, but did anyone notice that CBS News - I'm sorry, that should be middle-of-the-road, just-the-facts-ma'am, totally-un-biased, fair-and-balanced CBS News - was holding on to this story to air on Sunday night's "60 Minutes" and got beat to the punch by the rest of the media? Gee, Dan, hoping to sway the election with some hysteria-ridden story that the Internet wouldn't be able to expose for what it is until it's too late? Nah, you wouldn't do THAT...

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Regardless of timing, the fact of the matter is the incident exists and was not created by anyone - except those in charge.
You know, as well as I, that if the shoe was on the other foot W, et al would take advantage of whatever morsel they could as well. Hell, they're so desperate to do just that that they try to point out even when Kerry "outs" Cheney's daughter.
So don't try and get all 'holier than thou' about Kerry using this news. Especially when it fits so perfect with what he has been saying about W during the last month.
If Kerry was somehow witness to a mugging and stood idylly by watching don't you think W would utilize that to help bolster his case?

Even if it wasn't election time, W would still have to answer for this blunder. I suspect that if it wasn't election time even Republicans would be screaming bloody murder at him.
What's the most telling about this is that once again none of the W supporters can possibly accept that it might be a blunder and that W owes an explanation for it. The best they can do is point the finger elsewhere and say it wasn't a mistake. WILL HE EVER ADMIT TO A MISTAKE?
Can you?

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SteveG, it's not Kerry that I'm criticizing here - fully expect that blowhard to try to make something of it. I'm pointing the finger at CBS News -- once again showing its liberal bias by holding the story until it could do the most damage without risk of the story being torn apart like the National Guard story they aired a month ago or so. While they claim to be evenhanded and fair and all the rest. Pathetic. Pa-the-tic.

And I'm not convinced it is a blunder. Sounds like the weapons were gone before the American army got there. In any case, like Coffee pointed out, it's less than 1% of the total explosives destroyed we've already destroyed, and EVERY war has mistakes. If we threw out Lincoln or FDR for the blunders of the army during wartime, we'd currently have at least eleven less states in these United, with a CSA there in the South and half of Europe might still be held by the Nazis. It's important not to get hysterical about relatively minor mistakes - if, of course, this even was a mistake on the part of the army, which has certainly not been proven. We've got a war to win here, after all.

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The Daily Show had funny comments about this story last night. Colbert remarked that it was not a case of incompetence so much as ignorance.

Visit the following link and click on "Headlines: Mess O' Potamia: Missing Explosives" to see the official fake news report:
http://www.comedycentral.com/tv_shows/thedailyshowwithjonstewart/videos.jhtml

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I forgot about that.

That's much better...W's not incompetent...just ignorant.

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ABC and Fox uncovered other IAEA reports PRIOR to making a political issue of this, PRIOR to the war that state the area in question had 3 tons. 3 tons! 3! Does this throw NO new doubt in the validity of this attack ad and story?

Kerry is sticking, thus far, with the 380 tons that the UN-IAEA report, leaked by an opponent of Bush, is peddling POST war, for political gain. If Foxnews is biased. If CBS is biased. The source for Kerry's version is politically motivated and interested in REAL POWER!

In addition, there is evidence that the US was not warned of this until AFTER we had already been there and found that nothing was present - NOT before.

You be the judge of spin. You be the judge of whether or not this is a premature story or not, as I suggest - or a complete, compelling case against the president as other would tell you. You be the judge whether Kerry should be leaping on this or not. You be the judge whether a difference of more than 400 times the tonage would make a good Daily Show ridicule of Kerry's reliability or not. You be the judge on whether or not this can possible be used as a political issue yet. You be the judge on whether or not it is fair to call Bush incompitent or not. You be the judge on media bias. Its your head, you decide where you wanna stick it: in the clouds, in the sand, or on your shoulders.

I will discontinue my voice on this thread until more comes out. Keep watching it as it develops. Those who don't like seeing Kerry wipe egg from his face might want to close their eyes.

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Kerry maybe right?

I'm sure there's still some way for W to spin this.....

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What's that on your face, CC?

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377 or 3?

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"may be"

Kerry is attacking. I'm calling it premature.

"may be" sounds like egg on face of the one attacking still, not the one calling it premature, as of yet. Or do you not see the wisdom in waiting for the full story? Not even maybe?

I'm not saying the billion dollar man is definitely toting a 380 ton lie. I'm saying he's carrying (kerrying) one of them 380 ton ex-a-gur-a-shuns.

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That almost seemed like humor coming from you, CC,///I'm shocked and awed! [Wink]


Hmmm....waiting for all the facts and not jumping the gun and making a wrong assumption about something.....hmmm...how could I turn that statement to point something out....hmmmmm.

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This message board feels like Crossfire these days. Who's going to be the Jon Stewart to clean this place up?
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Clean up of the board will occur after the elections are finished. There will be some serious encouragement of the members to talk about other things besides politics.
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US destroyed the missing weapons

Still developing, I admit. But it does illustrate that we did have a plan. That it was being handled. I hope Kerry will equally "hold the President responsible" for having destroyed the weapons as he was for the assumed incomptitence.

I say John Kerry deserves another purple heart, having just shot himself in the foot.

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Saved in just the nick of time....(maybe).
Good thing this soldier showed up to tell W what happened and to make him stop coming up with other bizarre theories and jumping to conclusions. He was getting desperately close to "aliens took 'em"...


Was the soldier's name 1st Sgt K. Rove by any chance?

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quote:
But those 250 tons were not located under the seal of the International Atomic Energy Agency - as the missing high-grade explosives had been - and Pentagon spokesman Larry Di Rita could not definitely say whether they were part of the missing 377 tons
Hmmm....sounds like W might be jumping to new conclusions? [Wink]

Either way, maybe I'm naive, but I find it incredible that this info isn't available to the President...especially since that was "the reason" for going into Iraq - to find weapons, etc.

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