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Topic: How Many AN Posters Are REALLY Professional Cartoonists?
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blackmocco
IE # 202
Member # 2422
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Been working pretty much full-time since '87. Worked on a rake of features and TV projects with all the big and not-so-big houses(Key Clean-up, storyboard revisions, character design, some animation, promo and publicity art). IMDB didn't list me, disappointingly enough but there were tons of people who shared my name who look like they've FAR more interesting lives!
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Matt Wilson
IE # 139
Member # 1520
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Webanimator, and supervising producer of a fledgling amateur Flash cartoon portal. Basically looking out for young up and comers that pop up on Newgrounds and elsewhere on the internet, to recruit them, give advice, assimilate...
I do a weekly webseries called Bonus Stage with a mix of Aqua Teens-style limited motion and custom animation; with this method I've animated over five and a half hour's worth of episodes so far. Still looking for a better idea to be spending my time on, one with better characters and more appeal to a general audience.
There are many Matt Wilsons on IMDB and I am none of them, but I support all Matt Wilsons in the industry nonetheless. When I move out to Burbank in the remote future I will probably go under an alias, don't know what just yet. I'm just about almost ready to get my hands dirty with TV storyboarding. I just need to build my portfolio right, keep practicing, and safeguard my funds. If you've seen my other posts on the internet you may know me to be quite cynical (one story editor from Warner Bros Animation loathes me apparently) but that's the OLD Matt Wilson, circa 2002-2003. This a new gentler, thinner, sexier Matt Wilson, with multi-demographic appeal.
Professionally, I've been commmissioned to work on someone's weekly animated series in the near future. I offered myself out VERY CHEAP ($50 per 60 seconds) but it was the only way I could get an initial gig. I'll raise it in the future. Really, commissions are my only fund-reception in the field of animation, with merchandise and ad sales a remote hope; otherwise it's a part-time craft and not a full-time occupation. I was once offered a job teaching Flash animation to third and fourth graders but I knew I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I indirectly helped train eight to ten year olds to go out and steal Flash from Limewire/KaZaa and submit stick figure death movies to Newgrounds, so I passed.
And so far the only caste system I've seen at Animation Nation is the separation between those with IE membership and those without. That's probably the only caste that really matters. As long as people here support animation and are good contributors to the forums, that should be all that matters.
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Kevin
IE # 44
Member # 26
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Most people (except the big stars) list themselves on IMDB. You just have to register, and then submit your info. It won't get posted right away, but it will eventually.
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Fasty
IE # 97
Member # 2124
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Advertising, the noblest manifestation of the artform.
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Kevin
IE # 44
Member # 26
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My post was in response to blackmocco. I just saw Frank P's post. Not sure why IMDB accepts some information and not other.
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StephG
IE # 11
Member # 222
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I useta be a pro.
I coulda had class. I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am.
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Thomas
IE # 19
Member # 101
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Out of work pro
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amanofan
IE # 191
Member # 369
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I'm currently a technical director on a nationally televised animated show, but prior to that I was a designer at a internet company making websites, shorts and online games for big name clients, as well as freelance artist.
I do get screen credit at my current gig.
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Russian Judge
IE # 174
Member # 3004
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As I have often said, I can't draw. But I can write fairly well. I've written for a national animation magazine, and since I got five issues for every issue to which I submitted things, I consider myself a professional.
(Which is something I don't take lightly at all. Call me gay, call me stupid, call me retarded or whatever, but when I write, I take my work and responsibilities very seriously. I also take my paying job as a TV engineer seriously - more so, I think, than most of my bosses regard their jobs.)
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Peggy de Barr
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Member # 2097
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All animators are equal but some are more equal than others, hmm?
What will it achieve to label ourselves? Are we going to send the fanboys to the limbo that they apparently so richly deserve? And how much are they deserving it, exactly?
I don’t know about Scott but if a member’s posts annoy me I just skip over it. If I think that he or she know what they are talking about I keep an eye out for more of the same.
This morning I was so happy, drawing for a paid job, on my own designs for once. Not much, but enough for the likes of me…and now…I…I am not worthy! The rest of the entertainment industry treats us like peasants half the time; maybe we should try to not look down on the few people still wanting to show their interest in the craft.
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Luna
IE # 162
Member # 243
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In my dad's basement. Love it
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jeffnevins
IE # 247
Member # 1657
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Sporadic freelance pro here (paid for some video game char designs). Former full-time pro. However, when I switch to Pro Mode, I cannot be stopped! Well, almost-
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My game art & animation-
http://www.tangerinepop.com/GraveShift2/
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rostrum
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Member # 256
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20 years, 1D,2D, 3D
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Floyd Bishop
IE # 183
Member # 2322
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I'm a pro, I guess you could say. My IMDB listing isn't as prolific as some others here, but here you go:
Floyd Bishop's IMDB entry
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Chris Roman
IE # 223
Member # 551
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My IMDB:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1134050/
but it doesn't list anything I did as a storyboard artist, which was the bulk of my career...
By the way, if you have an IMDB entry...scroll down on your entry page and see your very own personal DISCUSSION BOARD! I thought it was so nice that they gave me my own personal discussion board so everyone in the country could talk about me on the internet.
Not that anyone is...but it's there, just in case...
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Morten_lee
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Member # 3059
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I'm probably one of the simple minded students. I know I can make rash statements and such, but that is simply because I don't know any better ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
As the inexpierenced young person I am, I will challenge and ask questions to get some of the knowledge of animation that I strive for.
I like that if somebody feels offended, they tell me instead of bearing a grudge.
I'm a student in Character animation in Denmark. I've done some animation projects with the danish film school and worked on several short films currently touring the festivals. I've also done a independent student film in my summer holiday which has won 3 foreign student awards.
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sconc
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Member # 1431
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Good topic.Interesting to learn a little about the backgrounds of the people here. Here's mine.
Got my start about 10 years ago or so with Natterjack as an assistant on a German feature called Felidae. Did tons of commercials, specials,a couple series in 2D - last one being Ned's Newt before crossing over to CG. Last project I can talk about was as a supervisor on Miss Spider's Sunny Patch Friends. And strangely, neither time did I actually work for Nelvana.
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bunny burgerman
IE # 138
Member # 2793
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My listing on IMDB is totally screwed up...I think I got lumped together with 3 other guys with the same name...somehow I'm also an art director in Australia as well as a storyboard artist in Canada. Worldly.
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Mr. Fun
IE # 63
Member # 352
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I'm an ancient story development artist. Worked at Hanna-Barbera, Disney Feature Animation and Pixar Animation Studios.
I'm working on my new career as a Santa Barbara land baron.
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droosan
IE # 4
Member # 2225
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The "profile" clicky-button at the top of each member's post is usually a good indicator of whether someone is a professional, a student, or whatever .. though it is only as accurate as the member who fills it in. ![[Yes]](graemlins/yes.gif)
Seeing as there's 3000+ members, I dunno whether it is feasible to add a 'pro status' tag unique to each one ..
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This subject might've made for a good poll; though, there again, it would only provide us with a 'cross-section' of the members who participate in the poll .. not necessarily the community as a whole.
Actually, it has generated some pretty good discussion .. so it's prolly just as well that it's over here in GD; more members are likely to see it, anyway ..
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Myself, I am a professional CG model-maker who has worked on a number of TV cartoons, one animated feature, visual FX for TV & films, TV commercials, assets for video games, and more! I have an IMDB entry, but it's woefully incomplete .. gotta get that updated soon.
Currently I'm doing some freelance work from home, which works out to 'more-or-less' full-time; it will deliver at the end of March .. and I already have another freelance assignment in-place, which I will immediately jump onto at that time.
Most of my jobs tend to be pretty temporary (anywhere from a few weeks to a few months). During the 'in-between' periods, I crunch away on a variety of personal projects .. some CG, some hand-drawn.
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I only started posting on AN a couple of years ago (though I'd 'lurked' around here for a year or so before signing up). I tend not to participate in the threads that descend into 'rants' (or worse), but I do find it interesting to read all the various opinions from everyone in our community .. from both the professionals and the fans. ![[cheers]](graemlins/cheers.gif)
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droosan
IE # 4
Member # 2225
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.. though I should point out that I am both a professional, and a fan ..
.. as, I suspect, is true of all the pro's here!
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ClosetAni1
IE # 115
Member # 46
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We did the Cartoon Network thing, now we're in comics. You would be surprised how many former animation professionals are now comics professionals. Scott also pays some bills doing cartoon characters and animation for casino games, a market I wasn't aware of until they came to us. I've gone into Flash and web design and I like it there, seasonal employment is for the birds.
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Sketchboy
IE # 126
Member # 2537
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I'm a boarder/layout artist for TV/DTV. I want Mr. Fun's new gig!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Tobias A. Wolf
IE # 250
Member # 383
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I sit with an oscillating fan hooked up to a bike powered generator, on Venice Beach, and hold cut-out shapes in front of it to form sand shaped art out of small dunes. Then I set up a camera to take time-lapse footage of its destruction by the real wind. Once, I found a penny in one of the wind destroyed dunes. I’m a pro. ![[thumbsup]](graemlins/thumbsup.gif)
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KevinO
IE # 36
Member # 56
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Pro, special effects animator, currently on the change over to 'digital' with Maya. Been at it since '88. Many features.
Way to go Mr. Fun, you give us hope in our older years. Land baron. I like that.
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Jessie
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Member # 1722
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FTS - Fulltime Slacker here... however, that will soon change-- I plan to move Into My Dad's Basement sometime.
If my opinions and posts offends you, pls ignore. I must apologize that it's just an opinion-- NOT gospel.
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EustaceScrubb
IE # 37
Member # 862
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I've been in the business since 1984 . (was doing my own animation on Super-8 and 16mm in high school , then Sheridan College. Hired right out of college and haven't ever done anything else for a living ).
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Ravenshoe
IE # 186
Member # 783
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Getting back to the job title or imdb listing below your name; the advantage is, when someone offers an opinion on a specific subject - for example 'character design', the reader can gauge whether the Poster has an informed opinion. Opinions are always welcome, but its nice to know exactly where its coming from. And while fan and student opinions are valid, they're not always as well informed about the realities of the business as they should be.
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Jim Aupperle
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Member # 3137
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I've been working in CG animation as a lighting TD since 1996 in visual effects and at Disney Feature Animation (Dinosaur and Treasure Planet). Before that did miniature effects lighting and camera on features like Nightmare before Christmas, Ghostbusters and The Thing. Even got in some stop motion in the early days on Dreamscape and Jason of Star Command. It's been 28+ years since I started doing this full time.
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Andy Blazdell
IE # 150
Member # 2434
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The "realities" of the business are so often based on perceptions, not facts. It's the combining of the perceptions that provides a clearer picture of the truth.
How about a compromise? All the professionals who are bothered about this can list all their credentials in the profile, and when anyone wants to check how "qualified" they are, it's there for all to see. Those people who don't want to list their credentials don't have to, and all they have to worry about is that their opinions may be discounted (sometimes justifiably, sometimes not).
But at the end of the day, isn't this all about a small number of people who don't know what they're talking about who are wasting the time of a small number of people who do know what they're talking about? And is that such a big problem that we have to have a witch-hunt?
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Vincent
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Member # 2369
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A witch hunt? He isn't suggesting throwing anyone off the board.
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yumnoodle
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Member # 3078
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I don't think so. This would be very wrong Vincent if it was.
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RedDiabla
IE # 10
Member # 1007
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Just don't tie a carrot to the end of your nose and you'll be fine. ![[biggrin]](graemlins/biggrin.gif)
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Lee Crowe
IE # 154
Member # 1135
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First job -- 1982 -- Tom Carter with Scott!
Later Jamaican commercials with Scott and Leo, mon!
One yogurt commercial w/ Dick Williams, Garfield TV specs with Phil Roman, Filmation Features(everybody worked at Filmation),Bob Rogers, Kurtz, Mermaid, Rover, Rescuers Go Under, Bluth, Cool World, Turner, WB, Rich, Renegade, KOTH, Family Guy, Dreamworks, Brother Bear (FLA), Radical Axis (ATL).
Mostly Char. Cleanup & FX Animation; some boards, character animation, timing, character design.
Currently Animation Department Chair at Art Institute of Atlanta.
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Look me up on http://IMDb.com.
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